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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2010.10.07 07:22:00 -
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I did not understand if the Developer acknowledged the bug with the Show Info window appearing always smack in the screen center.
Reproduce steps:
1) Lock a rat
2) Click on the big "i" in the upper right of the screen (top of overview=>selected item)
3) The resulting info window appears at the center of the screen.
4) Move it wherever. Close it. Click the "i" again. The window will appear at the center of the screen again and again.
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Actually,the 1st optional patch did nothing but the 2nd was actually pretty good.
It fixed 95% of the issues I had at least.
Hopefully that 3rd optional will fix my remaining problems...
P.S.
Actually it was the third.
First it was the "do nothing" optional patch.
Second it was a second "do nothing" optional patch published in Oct 5 morning
Third was the "fixes #2" labelled patch published later in Oct 5 and it worked.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.10.07 12:55:00 -
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i really dont understand how can something broke what was working just fine...example: window memoryzation!?
This is easy to explain.
Behind the UI management there used to be the "usual" dinosaur age spaghetti code that was kicked again and again thru the years till it behaved.
Now CCP want to "scrub off" those elder remains, probably to make it easier to add incarna and whatever in a second time.
So they changed how the code manages the UI "behind the hood" (it's called refactoring), replacing it with new code made from scratch.
Now, even if the new code could be better structured and more open to future expansions / debugging, it IS new and being new it usually contains bugs.
It's like we went back to EvE UI beta, but this time the server is "for real" and thus players get affected in large numbers even with smaller bugs.
Now, being it like a new software, even little / stupid things like window placement can be broken and need to be fixed.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.10.07 13:10:00 -
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Its like distributing a car that you know has braking problems and yet you still go ahead with it
Oh, but they do that. I am a programmer developing software for large car manufacturing brands production lines. Regardless of brand, they WILL happily ship defective stuff (and force us to "relax" quality control parameters) expecially in periods the market is good and they can't produce quick enough. The idea is this: it yields much more money to *cash in now* and sell 1M cars and eventually recall 2000 of them and pay an handful of deaths than waiting for quality new components to be available and basically lose the favorable sales train of the moment.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.10.07 13:19:00 -
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Since the latest Tyrannis and including these optional patches, my UI shows "chewed" characters in constrained places like i.e. some tabs and some overview rows.
Even before entering the game, the character information about the current pilot in the log in screen (ie where the pilot is, his wallet etc) right to his portrait shows compressed.
This only after latest Tyrannis as well.
This happens on 2 well different computers, one with Win 7 64 the other with Win 7 32 bit. One has a Nvidia 9600 the other an Nvidia ION, both with updated drivers.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.10.07 17:16:00 -
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C.A. Developer who replied earlier.
Two more bugs:
1) Dropping ammo on the turrets in the fitting window does not make the "BZRPPP!" noise. It's mute now.
2) Activating single module overheating by clicking in the green little moon above the module looks somewhat wrong: the hotspot area looks like shifted or reduced by 2 pixels in its bottom boundary, so it's harder to enable than before.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2010.10.09 22:12:00 -
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And EVE Mail and Copy/Paste are not broken. We have heard reports of issues but haven't been able to reproduce them, except for an FPS drop in certain situations when writing EVE Mails.
I am sorry but you are mistaken. I replied to a mail that contained a reply of reply.
Enter would introduce a "-------------------------" line in some random location or wold break a paragraph above the one I was writing and delete some characters and some times the same ENTER would be pasting two random pieces in such random place creating some quite funny sentences.
I could not replicate it with simple emails, but I hope you are not JUST testing simple mails with no reply, right?
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.10.09 23:00:00 -
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Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 09/10/2010 23:03:46
Originally by: CCP Explorer
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
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And EVE Mail and Copy/Paste are not broken. We have heard reports of issues but haven't been able to reproduce them, except for an FPS drop in certain situations when writing EVE Mails.
I am sorry but you are mistaken.
I'm mistaken in that "we have heard reports of issues but haven't been able to reproduce them"?
You are mistaken saying "And EVE Mail and Copy/Paste are not broken.".
You later expand about you not being able to reproduce the issue but with the above statement talked as an absolute, you don't encourage people to keep bug hunting.
Also, how can we reproduce something that happens twice a day over 10 mails? That would be stuff that would require writing more unit tests on the line of the combat player sim created to check combat / lag issues.
Edit: the above to say: we as individuals don't have visibility over statistical grade events, it gets hard to spot them right when they happen.
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